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VFR above 20,000' banned?

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Hi,
I am revising for PPL theory and have been looking at Bob's PPL sample Exam.

Q6, page 387. A VFR flt in Australia is normally restricted to:
a] below FL200
b] below 10000 ft
c] OCTA
d] in other than Class A CTR
I think there are 2 correct answers, a and d.
d is the answer given, but AIP ENR 1.1-36 states requirements for flt above FL200. All need IFR from what I can see.

Have I misread the AIP, or is this a new change from CASA since the question was written? (there is a black bar by the side of the section indicating some form of edit to the doc).
Thanks for any clarification
Trevor
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You can fly VFR above 20000 feet as long as you are not in Class A airspace. AIP ENR 1.7 para1.3.2 says that flight above 20000 feet requires an IFR altimeter calibrated to IFR standards, but it can still be a VFR flight.
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twb replied the topic: VFR above 20,000' banned?

Hi Bob,
many thanks for your swift reply.
I did see that regarding IFR rated altimeters, but what still confuses me is AIP ENR 1.1 page 36-37 (attached).

It seems to say that you and the plane must be IFR rated and that you can only operate in Class E.
Am I reading that incorrectly? :unsure:

With thanks,
Trevor

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Hi Trevor,
Yes, that is correct. You can fly under the VFR above 20000ft, but only if you and the aircraft are IFR capable and you are inside Class E airspace. By remaining in Class E airspace, it ensures you are on radar at that altitude.
Cheers,
Rich
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twb replied the topic: VFR above 20,000' banned?

Thanks Richard and Bob.

So, you and the plane must be IFR RATED, and in class E, but you don't have to be actually flying under IF rules.

Trevor
(It's hard for a dog to understand these subtleties!)
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